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Houdini 2
The installer sends an https POST transaction containing the
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\Curren tVersion\RegisteredOwner and
RegisteredOrganization keys, as well as the IP address of the computer
running it.

One considers that information stealing.

But a question: is the binary altered (fully activated) if this transaction is successful?

What might it do if it cannot transmit that information ?




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The facts are that Houdini 2 is
stealing information from a computer without the user being notified
prior or giving conscent for this action to take place.

To give a brief histroy. Blizzard Entertainment Inc learned a hard
lesson years ago from stealing computer information from its would be
users of Starcraft. A game they produced. This was a clear violation of
the law and subsquently lead to legal action against the company. I do
not remember if they had to settle out of court or lost in court but i
do know that it was not good for them. In the end they eneded up as
loosers.

If this is true that Robert Houdart is doing this. He can and will most
likely be sued and He will loose miserably in a court of law. He needs
to correct the problem and stop being a jack ass.

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Did Houdart specify in purchase agreement spyware such as "Warden client " was in download ?



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I reran the installer from Houdart.
and no where does it say that he is collection information about the pc
the engine will be running on.



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any other communication from him prior
to receiving link or in your agreement term submitting his software to
send your pcs private details to him ?



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This is what the email looks like when you buy it from him. I blanked out all the private info and engine.

Dear (blank),

Thank you for purchasing Houdini 2 Pro.
You can download the Houdini 2 Pro Setup from the following address:


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During installation you will be asked to enter your Customer Code and Serial
Number.
You can simply copy and paste the following information:

- Customer Code: (blank)
- Serial Number:(blank)

For installation tips and other useful information please consult the
Houdini Chess Engine home page:

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We hope you'll enjoy Houdini 2!

Best regards,

Robert Houdart
Houdini Chess Engine
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There is no other information about the software getting your pc's private info being sent out to him.



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OK

send us the blanked out bits to double check

then look at the terms of agreement on installer download and see if he
states his software will send him your private informations

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we have looked at the installers terms
of agreement and NO mention is given of agreeing to insulation of
software to send pc's information to him



Blizzard Entertainment DID put in small print users were agreeing to
Warden client but still had to apologize to Linux group and gave them
all free time of game



Blizzard has made use of a special form of software known as the 'Warden
Client'. The Warden client is known to be used with Blizzard's Online
Games such as Diablo and World of Warcraft, and the Terms of Service
contain a clause consenting to the Warden software's RAM scans while a
Blizzard game is running.[51]

The Warden client scans a small portion of the code segment of running
processes in order to determine whether any third-party programs are
running. The goal of this is to detect and address players who may be
attempting to run unsigned code or third party programs in the game.
This determination of third party programs is made by hashing the
scanned strings and comparing the hashed value to a list of hashes
assumed to correspond to banned third party programs.[52] The Warden
scans all processes running on a computer, not just the World of
Warcraft game, and could possibly run across what would be considered
private information and other personally identifiable information. It is
because of these peripheral scans that Warden has been accused of being
spyware and has run afoul of controversy among privacy
advocates.[53][54][55]

The Warden's reliability in correctly discerning legitimate vs
illegitimate actions was called into question when a large scale
incident happened when many Linux users were banned after an update to
Warden caused it to incorrectly detect Cedega as a cheat program.[56]
Blizzard issued a statement claiming they had correctly identified and
restored all accounts and credited them with 20 days play.[57]

The Warden is not the first time Blizzard Entertainment has been accused
of attempting to inspect customers' computers. In 1998 Blizzard
Entertainment had a class action lawsuit filed against them for
"unlawful business practices" for the action of collecting data from a
user's computer without their permission.[58



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