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PostSubject: Pre-Release McCain X4   Pre-Release McCain X4 EmptyThu Jun 13, 2019 3:53 am

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:39 am
Only for those that can compile their own. Looking for feedback on usability with Chessbase, Areana, XBoard and others Chess GUIs.

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Changes since X3:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... lB7:McCain

Specific item to test:

Now accepts 4 polyglot books

Book1 is primary and should very specific to an opening ( or player)
Book2 is wider than book 1, with the secondary lines of book 2 or expanded to more players
Book3 is wider than book 2 , I recommend Thomas Zipproth NN book
Book4 is the big book, Cerebellum or something else that covers a wide variety of lines.

Play By Elo (Engine_ELo) - check the box and pick your ELo. Rating of 1200 should be about 7 nodes per second if you a TC that provides for about 10 seconds per move ( 1 min with 9 second increment) , Goes up to about 2850 which is the vicinity of 150K nps for McCain

Engine Level - select a predefined level and make sure Play by Elo is not checked, no other box to check.

Also, the Lc0 scoring percentage is now the default, but can be picked switched back to centipawn by the user. 0 means loss, 100 means win and 50 is drawish

From Xboard:
Attachments  Pre-Release McCain X4 File

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:05 am
I was able to get some Windows and macOS binaries for those I who like to kick the ties and provide input.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]MikeB wrote: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:05 am
I was able to get some Windows and macOS binaries for those I who like to kick the ties and provide input.

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Mike

I tried the Lucas compile. The options look ok in CB15 but the hash shows 2764 even though I set it to 512 outside CB.
This is the uci file I use.
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[ENGINE]
Name=McCain X4
Author=M. Byrne, Stockfish authors and others
Filename=c:\mccain\McCain-X4_x64_bmi2.exe
[OPTIONS]
UCI_Chess960=true
W_Contempt=0
B_Contempt=0
Best Move 3=false
Dynamic_Contempt=false
Threads=1
Hash=512
SyzygyPath=SyzygyPath=c:\tablebases\syzygy
Setting the hash to 512 in engine properties while running McCain in CB seems to work. BTW the hash is not even shown in the screenshot from CPW.
Is this a bug?

Thanks for all your great work.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:53 am
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:58 am
I know a lot of folks appreciate the added features, but some folks want to know how does it do against SF. Most of the time, I don't know, since changes are almost always tested again the previous version of McCain.

So fo those that want to see a 500 game match with a time of 5 min with 3 second increment , enjoy!

Results:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... a.txt?dl=1

Games:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... s.pgn?dl=1

Early results:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... s.pgn?dl=1

Updates will be at the completion of 20 games or every 789 seconds ( calculated by the script based on time control how often the planned showings are , i.e, every xx games ) I still use Bob Hyatt's testing code he used for Crafty , of course I have modified it over the years and it's fully integrated with his "watcher" script, using env variables - so that the watcher script know the time control and the planned output. The watcher script then calculates a time to display intermediate results that makes sense for the given time control and planned output.

[big snip]
final result and this is not a fluke:
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Code:
500 rounds and 500 games completed...
Time control: 300 seconds + 3.0000 seconds
Target completion: 06/12/19 : 13:37:04
Date: 06/12/19 : 13:08:54
500 game(s) loaded
Rank Name                      Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 Stockfish 090619 64 POPC   3102   0.0   15   15   500  253.5  50.7   68   61  371  13.6  74.2  3098
   2 McCain X4                  3098   4.4   15   15   500  246.5  49.3   61   68  371  12.2  74.2  3102
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RR-061219-1308.pgn
It's a fluke when McCain or Honey finishes higher that current-dev-SF...

this probably close to real as well, maybe a 10 Elo improvement over X3 - thanks to the SF team:
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Code:
500 rounds and 500 games completed...
Time control: 60 seconds + .6000 seconds
Target completion: 06/12/19 : 15:54:18
Date: 06/12/19 : 15:22:31
500 game(s) loaded
Rank Name       Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 McCain X4   3105   0.0   17   17   500  257.5  51.5   86   71  343  17.2  68.6  3095
   2 McCain X3   3095  10.9   17   17   500  242.5  48.5   71   86  343  14.2  68.6  3105
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RR-061219-1522.pgn


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I figured out how to compile the engine... Here is a screenshot in Chessbase... Everything is working just fine including the drop downs, etc. Obviously you can see one of the words is truncated (Analysis Contempt) but I don't really care about that.







Windows and macOS binaries for those I who like to kick the ties and provide input.

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