AZZAD LOSES DEBATE FACE AND COOL EMBARESSING HIMSELF OVER FIRE BIRD

Quote:
Originally Posted by BTO7 View Post
Ok my personal update .....NO engine can man handle this engine. I have to give it up to this new Houdini. I have pitted against no less then Mini7, Firebird1.2 & 1.1, Stockfish 1.71, Igoritt v9, the new ivanhoe Vlad0 version 5Ub-PGO and only Firebird managed to win a match by a narrow 1 point. Guys this engine is for real here. Its extremely fast, and gains its advantage usually in the end part of the game over the rest of all these engines mentioned. Its basic end game knowledge seems more refined then the rest. This engine is flat out, out hustling the others then converting on its better endgame knowledge from what im seeing. Its beat every one of them except firebird which the best it did so far is tie. All the ivans have only produced drawn tourney or lost narrowly. Igorrit in the one 10 game match lost 4.5 to 5.5. Yes Houdini has my attention ....I still like firebird the best ...you can adjust this engine and Houdini you cannot so the nod is still for firebird and i cant wait for firebird 1.3. Things are heating up at the top

Keep up the great work programmers & compilers
BT


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

problem with your theory is this

ivanhoes slap fire bird all around the board
hello2u is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение
hello2u





Old Today, 18:47 #65
Azaad [Меню пользователя]
Супер-модератор

Azaad's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 559
Thanks: 463
Thanked 457 times in 187 posts
Reputation: Azaad has disabled reputation Add to Azaad's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini
Quote:
Originally Posted by hello2u View Post
ivanhoes slap fire bird all around the board



You've posted it so many times without any proof . Care to share your proof ( and a wisecra.ck is not a proof ) with us ?
Azaad is offline Report Post Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение
Azaad




Old Today, 18:52 #66
hello2u [Меню пользователя]
КМС

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 494
Thanks: 298
Thanked 115 times in 75 posts
Blog Entries: 1
Reputation: 5 Add to hello2u's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini


open your eyes and see what testers have posted , here as well as elswhere . do you believe fire bird beats best ivans ,, when vast majority of testers show it doesnt .. you know your way around better than most ,,have a look see . run more tests if you dont believe others , fire bird is NOT the strongest engine in game play , not even second strongest

proof a plenty all around here , we dont need to show more proof ivanhoe is strongest , those who claim fire bird is strongest need to show proof rather than rhetoric

and quoteing one test as proof when 10 more show diffently is a joke ,,,a poor one, we arent biased , if it was wed be pleased to use it . but its not and we find the long ago posted that it is THE strongest engine in the world insulting to the compilers of the genuinely strongest
Last edited by hello2u; Today at 19:01.
hello2u is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Old Today, 19:02 #67
Azaad [Меню пользователя]
Супер-модератор

Azaad's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 559
Thanks: 463
Thanked 457 times in 187 posts
Reputation: Azaad has disabled reputation Add to Azaad's Reputation
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini
Quote:
Originally Posted by hello2u View Post
open your eyes and see what testers have posted , here as well as elswhere . do you believe fire bird beats best ivans ,, when vast majority of testers show it doesnt .. you know your way around better than most ,,have a look see . run more tests if you dont believe others , fire bird is NOT the strongest engine in game play , not even second strongest

proof a plenty all around here , we dont need to show more proof ivanhoe is strongest , those who claim fire bird is strongest need to show proof rather than rhetoric








~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In short no proof . I thought as much .
Quote:
Originally Posted by hello2u View Post
need to show proof rather than rhetoric
Talk of irony !
In future kindly refrain from butting in with your personal agenda posts .
Azaad is offline Report Post Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение





Old Today, 19:04 #68
hello2u [Меню пользователя]
КМС

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 494
Thanks: 298
Thanked 115 times in 75 posts
Blog Entries: 1
Reputation: 5 Add to hello2u's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azaad View Post
You've posted it so many times without any proof . Care to share your proof ( and a wisecra.ck is not a proof ) with us ?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

what is proof to you if you ignore dozens of tests that show fire bird loseing ?
hello2u is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение

hello2u
View Public Profile
Send a private message to hello2u
Find More Posts by hello2u
Add hello2u to Your Contacts
View Blog
Old Today, 19:07 #69
hello2u [Меню пользователя]
КМС

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 494
Thanks: 298
Thanked 115 times in 75 posts
Blog Entries: 1
Reputation: 5 Add to hello2u's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini

heres proof
just see thomases last tests , one of dozens here

1 IHB63mB3s x64amd 3276 0 69.5/114 60.96%
2 IHT63Mini5 x64 3267 0 68.0/114 59.64%
3 FireBird 1.2 x64smp 3258 0 66.5/114 58.33%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 IHT63Mini9 x64 3255 0 66.0/114 3625.50 57.89%
5 IHB63mB10bm x64amd 3255 0 66.0/114 3624.50 57.89%
6 Igorrit 0.086v9_x64 3252 0 65.5/114 57.45%
7 IHB63mB3s x64ms 3249 0 65.0/114 3597.75 57.01%
8 IHT63Mini6 x64 3249 0 65.0/114 3563.00 57.01%
9 IHT63Mini8 x64 3249 0 65.0/114 3557.25 57.01%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 IHT63Mini7 x64 3246 0 64.5/114 3587.25 56.57%
11 IHT63Mini1a x64 3246 0 64.5/114 3538.00 56.57%
12 IHB63mB3s x64 3243 0 64.0/114 56.14%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
13 IHV63M5a x64 3240 0 63.5/114 55.70%
14 IvanHoe v81 x64 3237 0 63.0/114 3548.25 55.26%
15 IHT63Tx64 3237 0 63.0/114 3531.25 55.26%
16 IHB63mB10cm x64amd 3237 0 63.0/114 3521.00 55.26%
17 IHB63mB8m2 x64amd 3237 0 63.0/114 3463.50 55.26%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
18 IHB63mB10bm x64 3234 0 62.5/114 3451.50 54.82%
19 FireBird 1.1 x64ms 3234 0 62.5/114 3449.25 54.82%
20 IHB63mB10b x64 3234 0 62.5/114 3433.50 54.82%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 IHT63Mini x64 3228 -1 61.5/114 3369.75 53.94%
22 IHB63mMTT x64 3228 -1 61.5/114 3346.00 53.94%
23 IHB63mB8m2 x64 3225 -1 61.0/114 3403.00 53.50%
24 IH70c x64 3225 -1 61.0/114 3373.50 53.50%
25 IHB63mB10b x64i7 3225 -1 61.0/114 3358.25 53.50%
26 FireBird 1.2 x64smpCD 3225 -1 61.0/114 3341.25 53.50%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
27 IHB63mB10cm x64 3219 -1 60.0/114 3371.00 52.63%
28 FireBird 1.01 x64 3219 -1 60.0/114 3325.00 52.63%
29 FireBird 1.0 beta x64 3219 -1 60.0/114 3320.25 52.63%
30 FireBird 1.1 x64 3219 -1 60.0/114 3316.50 52.63%
31 IH70a x64 3219 -1 60.0/114 3293.25 52.63%
32 IHB63mB10c x64amd 3219 -1 60.0/114 3290.00 52.63%
33 IH63_x64_JR2 3216 -1 59.5/114 3353.25 52.19%
34 IH63 x64 JR 3216 -1 59.5/114 3333.25 52.19%
35 FireBird 1.2 x64 3216 -1 59.5/114 3217.00 52.19%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
36 FireBird 1.0 x64 3213 -1 59.0/114 51.75%
37 FireBird 1.2 x64smpPH 3210 -1 58.5/114 51.31%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
38 IvanHoe v67x64 JR 3204 -1 57.5/114 3156.50 50.43%
39 FB 1.2 x64smpTF 3204 -1 57.5/114 3146.50 50.43%
40 IH63 x64amdJR 3204 -1 57.5/114 3133.75 50.43%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
41 FireBird 1.1 x64ms amd 3198 -1 56.5/114 49.56%
42 FireBird 1.2 x64smpKE 3196 -2 56.0/114 49.12%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
43 FireBird 1.2 x64smpHB 3193 -2 55.5/114 48.68%
44 IvanHoe v68x64 JR 3187 -2 54.5/114 47.80%
45 IH70b x64 3184 -2 54.0/114 3010.50 47.36%
46 IHV63M5Ua x64 3184 -2 54.0/114 2978.75 47.36%
47 IHB63mB10c x64i7 3181 -2 53.5/114 2976.00 46.92%
48 IvanHoe v81a x64 3181 -2 53.5/114 2961.25 46.92%
49 FireBird 1.2 x64smpPP 3178 -2 53.0/114 46.49%
50 IH63_x64_JR4 3163 -2 50.5/114 2725.75 44.29%
51 IH63_x64_JR3 3163 -2 50.5/114 2708.00 44.29%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
52 FireBird 1.2 x64smpEN 3123 -2 44.0/114 38.59%
53 Stockfish 1.7 JA x64x 3064 -3 35.0/114 30.70%
54 Stockfish 1.7 JA x64 3061 -3 34.5/114 30.26%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
55 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA x64x 3047 -4 32.5/114 28.50%
56 Stockfish 1.7.1 x64amdx 3028 -3 30.0/114 26.31%
57 Stockfish 1.7.1 x64amd 2992 -4 25.5/114 22.36%
58 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA x64 2988 -4 25.0/114 21.92%

Average elo: 3199 <=> Category: 38
gm = 0.00 m = 0.00
hello2u is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение

View Public Profile





hello2u [Меню пользователя]
КМС

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 494
Thanks: 298
Thanked 115 times in 75 posts
Blog Entries: 1
Reputation: 5 Add to hello2u's Reputation

heres another testers results

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini
#937
mishmash [Меню пользователя]
Новичок

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 19
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 times in 2 posts
Reputation: 1 Add to mishmash's Reputation

Default Re: IvanHoe
1 minute R 2010

T63Mini8 rules ok

Sad result for Deep Fritz 12


1 IvanHoe-T63Mini8 x64 ********** ½½½½½1½½½1 01½1½1½0½0 1½½½1½½0½½ ½1111½½11½ 1½11111111 34.0/50
2 IvanHoe 63Mod5a-x64 ½½½½½0½½½0 ********** 1½½½0½011½ 1½101½1½½½ ½½1101½½1½ 1111111111 32.5/50
3 Rybka 3 64 bit 10½0½0½1½1 0½½½1½100½ ********** ½½½½0011½0 11½10½½01½ 1111111111 30.0/50
4 FireBird 1.2 x64 0½½½0½½1½½ 0½010½0½½½ ½½½½1100½1 ********** ½½1½½0½½1½ 1111111111 29.0/50
5 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA 64bit ½0000½½00½ ½½0010½½0½ 00½01½½10½ ½½0½½1½½0½ ********** 111111111½ 23.5/50
6 Deep Fritz 12 0½00000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000 000000000½ ********** 1.0/50
hello2u is online now Report Post Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение



~~~~~~~~~~~~~#



Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 559
Thanks: 463
Thanked 457 times in 187 posts
Reputation: Azaad has disabled reputation Add to Azaad's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini

The only thing I can see is that IvanHoe and Firebird engines are well mixed up . Another point to note almost all the weaker Firebirds use custom user settings .
P.S. - Get some idea of statistics , especially error margin , before flooding the forum with cherry-picked posts . If you wish we can continue the discussion via PM .

Azaad is offline Report Post Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Quote selected text Сказать спасибо за это сообщение
Azaad




Old Today, 19:29 #72
hello2u [Меню пользователя]
КМС

Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 494
Thanks: 298
Thanked 115 times in 75 posts
Blog Entries: 1
Reputation: 5 Add to hello2u's Reputation

Default Re: New UCI engine: Houdini
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azaad View Post
The only thing I can see is that IvanHoe and Firebird engines are well mixed up . Another point to note almost all the weaker Firebirds use custom user settings .
P.S. - Get some idea of statistics , especially error margin , before flooding the forum with cherry-picked posts . If you wish we can continue the discussion via PM .



i did NOT cherry pick . i mearly picked at random two of this forums members tests, rather than post ours and be falsly accused of "cherry picking "

that fire bird is NOT stronger than best ivanhoes is VERITAS


posting 2 of your own forum members tests is NOT cherry picking , deleating polite right of reply post that prove my case however is cherry picking


AZZAD BANED US THEN

Well captured princess that Azzad has the intelect of a slug ,hes so far up kraniums backside he eats for him , these posts show him for what he and his cronies realy are , a bunch of ****s that couldnt care ;less for the comrades of Ippolit only for themselves

on Angels

ya i hv seen an exchange of words with hello2 u ....

i think Azad duty as a moderators should be neutral which he was not its sad that the modarators also favours some one and with wrong reason .........

i fully agree with hello 2 u on this matter if someone ignore some result u cannot force them to believe .....if some one dont want to face the mirror u cant do anything we all beleave that ivan shows better result then fire1.2 and if some one dont beleave it lets it be ..truth cannot be ignored too long .................and banning someone just for that is sad and poor ........................

i think azad should hv to be neutral as an administator while judging others

i think he should be castrated ,

cant be though , hes no balls

Well done "B" you won debate and made him show what a weak piece of crap he realy is

Clever Lady

"B" allowed him to make spectal of himself. he has shown all he has inferior brain and lacks courage
This is not a man but a weak exscuse of one